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uneet Been Around Fabiosi
Joined: 06 Jun 2009 Posts: 258 Location: Delhi
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Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 8:19 pm Post subject: Digital Camera |
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Hi Guys,
I have narrowed down my search to either Nikon D5000 or Canon 500d.
Pls help me decide. Main purpose would be to take sharper indoor pics of the garments samples that we make, vacations, and sometime making a movie.
So guys pls help, any other suggestion is always welcomed.
Budget range is around 30k.
Thks
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admin Site Admin
Joined: 04 Jun 2009 Posts: 692 Location: Bengaluru
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Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 7:27 pm Post subject: Re: Digital Camera |
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uneet wrote: | Hi Guys,
I have narrowed down my search to either Nikon D5000 or Canon 500d.
Pls help me decide. Main purpose would be to take sharper indoor pics of the garments samples that we make, vacations, and sometime making a movie.
So guys pls help, any other suggestion is always welcomed.
Budget range is around 30k.
Thks
Uneet |
Ajay bought a camera last month. He had done a lot of research. He should be the right person to comment here.
Ajay - come out of hiding. _________________ Robin |
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k_ajay Site Admin
Joined: 05 Jun 2009 Posts: 323 Location: Bangalore
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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Robin,
Hehe who is hiding dude? I'm right here..
Uneet,
Your requirement seems very simple. I don't mean to discourage you, but let's see if you even need a DSLR.. Of course, if you 'desire' a DSLR for photography, other than your business requirement, then there is no debating on that.
ok. Here goes..
1. I don't know about Nikon cameras, but the Canon EOS 500D certainly won't fall within 30K, unless its a grey market purchase [without bill and warranty]. I personally, don't recommend any purchase, beyond 5K, without B&W.
The lowest price I've heard for EOS 500D in bangalore, with B&W is 37K. Just a pointer.
2. Your major application as you've mentioned, are to take sharp photographs of garment samples and vacations. For this, a DSLR is 'not' a requirement, but surely a good one to have. The thing is, unless you're very familiar with using a DSLR [it's a very good and powerful photographic equipment], you may not be able to get the pictures you desire. It's not a simple point and shoot camera.
It could be that 'IF' you're not familiar with DSLR usage, you could get normal or even bad pictures of what you shoot. This is not to demean your skills, I'm just sharing fact. I'm not expert either; I'm sharing what I know is right.
If you don't have any such problems as above, a DSLR is a good choice then. Among Canon and Nikon, both are good, and I'm a Canon user now [a 550D]..
If you think you 'don't' need a DSLR, then I can recommend the Lumix DMC-FZ35. It's an advance point and shoot, called 'Bridge cameras'.. It's got good zoom [18x optical zoom] and also 12 Megapixel cam. It's a superb camera and there are thousands of reviews on the internet for it. Infact, it is one of the undisputed, superbly rated bridge camera [also called superzoom cameras].
It will surely fall well within 30K, heck you'll even save a few Ks for a nice bag and memory cards. Good thing here is, it will also also record videos in HD [not full HD, but at 720P; it's still great videos].
I'm not sharing specs here, as you can find them by the dozen in the reviews.
Other than the FZ35, I'm not sure of which superzoom camera to recommend. Simply because this one beats them all. Don't take my word for it; please search all forums you possibly can.
If you still want a DSLR, I can recommend the Canon EOS 1000D, a good beginner DSLR with 10 megapixel cam. It can be bought for about 22K, but the kit lens that comes with the camera is non-stabilized. If you want an IS [image stabilization] lens, then you could exchange the non-IS lens with an IS one of the same specification [18-55mm] for about 1.5K to 2K more. Total should come under 25K anyway..
But the 1000D won't record videos. Also note, the 500D does record videos, at Full HD, but only at 20 fps [frames per second]. Good videos [and all movies] are shot at 24 fps.. The 550D can do that , but it's about 45.5K.
You can still go with 500D if you can get it [legit purchase or otherwise] for 30K, it's a very good camera, but keep in mind the video recording's shortcoming I've mentioned.
Ultimately, as a friend said on tbhp, research well, and choose your poison
Sorry Uneet, for this ugly and long post. I've only tried to help you for your money's worth. Sorry if it only confused you more. See the DSLR is such a thing, it will confuse you..
Good luck. Don't hesitate to ask me for anymore details too [lol, I doubt you might want to. ]..
oh btw!! Irrespective of your camera, remember to get Class 6 and above SDHC [Secure Digital high capacity] memory card, if you want to shoot videos. Storage can be 4GB or 8Gb, whatever.. 2GB will be very less space for a DSLR or even for the FZ35..
aK _________________ Peace precedes Prosperity.. |
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uneet Been Around Fabiosi
Joined: 06 Jun 2009 Posts: 258 Location: Delhi
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Ajay,
Thks for your long post.
The reason why I need a DSLR over a print camera is that at times we need to transfer the digital image to the client immdly after taking the shot. Really can't wait to order prints and than scan the same to be sent.
Besides this Iam currently using Fuji 6900 for the last 5-6 yrs.
This has been solving my requirements to a great extent till recently but I think now the time has come to change it for good.
Regarding skills - I totally agree that photography involves a real skill element and I would still consider myself an amature in the same.
Also let me know more about Fuji HS10. This is available for around 25k, but I can have it in the range of 16k-17k. Do you think this can also be considered at this price?
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rm Been Around Fabiosi
Joined: 17 Feb 2010 Posts: 142 Location: Hyderabad
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Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 12:09 pm Post subject: |
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uneet wrote: | Hi Ajay,
Thks for your long post.
The reason why I need a DSLR over a print camera is that at times we need to transfer the digital image to the client immdly after taking the shot. Really can't wait to order prints and than scan the same to be sent.
Uneet |
Uneet,
I am still not able to understand as to why you need a DSLR for your requirement. I mean if its only to transfer images to a client any Point and Shoot Digicam can do that. And to be honest, DSLR's woiuld be way too cumbersome for what you would be predominantly be using the camera for.
There are some excellent P&S digicams available like the Canon IXUS series. Way more convenient to carry and take some excellent pictures too.
I dont see the reason for you to be shelling out the money that is required to be spent on a DSLR for what you want to do.
Let me know if i am missing something here.
rm _________________ Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it |
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jnpai Newbie
Joined: 05 Nov 2009 Posts: 6 Location: kannur
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Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 11:57 am Post subject: FZ 35 Good!! |
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Dear Uneet,
Having used an FZ 35 since Feb this year, I can say it is good and will be good enough for your stated requirements and beyond. Grey market rates are substantially lower but warranty of 1 year may not be available.
I got mine for 18.5k!! Panasonic dealer rate was 26999 with one year warranty.
Ease of shooting as well as picture clarity are plus points of FZ 35. It may equal entry level SLRs if you can bring the best out it.
I recommend highly..read review at the following link
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/specs/Panasonic/panasonic_dmcfz35.asp
There are comparisons available with other brands as well on the same site.
I suggest you look up cameralabs.com too for unbiased reviews.
Trust me, the camera buying process is not simple and you should know what your needs are to get the best buy. Buying the Fabia was infinitely easy.
Anyway take time to research the web and find the right camera for you.
A knowledgeable friend/ friendly studiowala will also be of great help. _________________ jnpai
The measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort .BUT where he stands in moments of challenge . |
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admin Site Admin
Joined: 04 Jun 2009 Posts: 692 Location: Bengaluru
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Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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I am all confused. But I am not the one buying any camera .
Ajay - are you listening. No more coaxing me to join photography sessions
lol . _________________ Robin |
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hi!there Newbie
Joined: 22 Jun 2009 Posts: 35 Location: Bangalore
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Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 9:34 am Post subject: |
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Uneet,
I think you should go with a DSLR. I have a Fujifilm Finepix s6500Fd, which is one of the better Bridge Cameras, but when it comes to tough situations like low-light, fast moving objects, etc. a DSLR is way too superior to a bridge camera. Also almost all DSLR's come with standard predefined settings like in bridge camera's. Learning curve wouldn't be that steep. Also most of the DSLR's now come with Image stabilized lenses or have it built into the camera body itself. I am sure you will enjoy photography with a DSLR rather than a bridge camera, especially the handling(speed between shots, continuous shooting speed, shutter lag etc) which makes all the difference in my opinion.
Regards
Remesh |
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uneet Been Around Fabiosi
Joined: 06 Jun 2009 Posts: 258 Location: Delhi
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Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 10:58 am Post subject: |
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Thks guys for opinions.
Iam also inclined towards a DSLR and I agree with Ramesh that speed between shots, continuous shooting speed, shutter lag etc does makes the difference.
Besides this I have been using a Fuji 6900 already for quite some time and I feel I need to upgrade further now. |
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k_ajay Site Admin
Joined: 05 Jun 2009 Posts: 323 Location: Bangalore
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Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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uneet wrote: | Thks guys for opinions.
Iam also inclined towards a DSLR and I agree with Ramesh that speed between shots, continuous shooting speed, shutter lag etc does makes the difference.
Besides this I have been using a Fuji 6900 already for quite some time and I feel I need to upgrade further now. |
Uneet,
I think you know what you want, by now, so I won't confuse you or coax you into a bridge/superzoom camera. Heck, let's step into the DSLR world. Its fun and after all, we need to let our skills grow right.
First disclaimer.. Please be aware, DSLR, is a Money pit. Investing in a DSLR system, I dare committ, will NEVER cease.
That apart, DSLR world is a lot of fun. Suddenly, you'll notice how you'll want to spend all your weekends photographing.. Robin will be helpful in explaining how I haven't even called him in 2+ weeks and how rude I've become [not truly so]..
Since you don't want to invest a lot, you can plonk your money on a Canon EOS 1000D camera. It's a beginner camera but a decent one. With the camera, you'll be getting a 18-55mm lens. Now be aware [and you can see the issue with DSLRs start already ] that this 18-55mm does NOT have the IS function [image stabilization].. You will need IS for perfect shots and if you cannot steadily hold the camera to negate shake..
The 18-55 IS lens you can get for about 2K more, by trading in the non-IS 18-55mm lens. The total package should not cost you more than 24K-25K [after the change to 18-55 IS lens; the cost of the cam with 18-55 non-IS lens should not be more than 22K or 23K]..
This 1000D should keep you going for a long while, before you can approach us [or any other forums] for upgrades, better lenses, etc..
Then, you'll need to store the images you take, somewhere.. For this, you'll have to buy an SD or SDHC memory card. 4GB should be sufficient for you to start with, and that should not cost you more than 400-600 bucks [thank god for somethings that are cheaper, right??]..
Fortunately, for all EOS cameras purchased legitimately (with bill & warranty) [and registered on the Canon Edge website], Canon sends a complimentary camera bag and a book on photography... So you don't have to worry about a bag.. Buuut, the bag will reach you in 30-45 days.. Until such time, you'll have to manage with some bag you have.. [Basic camera kit bags costs from1.5K upwards]
A good camera cleaning kit, if you want to keep that 1000D shining new.. Cleaning kit only costs less than Rs.400/- ..
There is more to write, but I'll share this much for now..
Good luck my friend. PM me know if you like to talk about this in detail..
Cheers
aK
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Robin: Don't think I'm leaving you out and cold.. I'm always behind ya, you better get that photography course done, and you'll be thanking me for the rest of your life.. Buuttt, before the course, let's get down to selecting a good DSLR for you
Call me !!!! lol
aK _________________ Peace precedes Prosperity.. |
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rm Been Around Fabiosi
Joined: 17 Feb 2010 Posts: 142 Location: Hyderabad
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Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 1:39 pm Post subject: |
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uneet wrote: | Thks guys for opinions.
Iam also inclined towards a DSLR and I agree with Ramesh that speed between shots, continuous shooting speed, shutter lag etc does makes the difference.
Besides this I have been using a Fuji 6900 already for quite some time and I feel I need to upgrade further now. |
Uneet,
Good. That settles matters since you are clear on the direction that you want to take.
Our dear mate aK will surely tread you down the right path. Make a good choice and keep posting those pics.
All the best as you go on your camera hunting expedition.
Cheers,
rm _________________ Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it |
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uneet Been Around Fabiosi
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Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 12:58 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Guys,
Finally I have zero-ed in on Cannon 550d and Iam getting it for Rs. 41000/-
I should be buying it soon and will update with my comments.
Uneet _________________ Currently driving - XUV 5OO, Honda Civic, Skoda Fabia, New Swift, Hyundai Santro.
Earlier - Toyota Innova, Suzuki Baleno, Honda City OHC, Toyota Qualis, Maruti Zen, Omni etc |
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uneet Been Around Fabiosi
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 11:22 am Post subject: |
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Hey Guys,
Finally I have bought Cannon 550d at a reduced price for Rs. 36500/-
Still exploring the new gadget and will try and back with some comments soon. _________________ Currently driving - XUV 5OO, Honda Civic, Skoda Fabia, New Swift, Hyundai Santro.
Earlier - Toyota Innova, Suzuki Baleno, Honda City OHC, Toyota Qualis, Maruti Zen, Omni etc |
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admin Site Admin
Joined: 04 Jun 2009 Posts: 692 Location: Bengaluru
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Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 1:44 pm Post subject: |
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uneet wrote: | Hey Guys,
Finally I have bought Cannon 550d at a reduced price for Rs. 36500/-
Still exploring the new gadget and will try and back with some comments soon. |
Please come back with some good snaps too _________________ Robin |
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karan1070 Newbie
Joined: 27 Feb 2012 Posts: 8 Location: jaipur
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Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:24 am Post subject: |
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Hi...Everyone i am using sony digicam with 10 megapixel and 4x zoom and what i found is that its picture quality is not so good up to that i was expecting... |
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k_ajay Site Admin
Joined: 05 Jun 2009 Posts: 323 Location: Bangalore
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Posted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 11:47 am Post subject: |
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karan1070 wrote: | Hi...Everyone i am using sony digicam with 10 megapixel and 4x zoom and what i found is that its picture quality is not so good up to that i was expecting... |
Hi Karan.. From what you've said, I suspect that you are using a Sony simple 'Point and Shoot' camera, ones that came out years ago with that 10 megapix and 4x optical zoom.
these cameras were basic and the photos should be fine/acceptable. You cannot expect great output when compared to DSLRs/Bridge cameras. The focus could be wrong or images could come out blurred/partly focused.. These are typical problems with the older gen point and shoot cameras.
If the camera you're having is over 5-6 years old, my humble suggestion is that you can look to move on to better camera. Also, you need to have a check on the 'expectation' you were having from the P&S camera. They were never for giving brilliant output..
Of course, my apologies if my assumptions are wrong anywhere. No offense, friend.
aK _________________ Peace precedes Prosperity.. |
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